Child Kidnapping by the Norwegian state
New development

Following the criminal act by the Norwegian state, highlighted in my previous post, here are some new developments:

http://sledcom.ru/actual/420508/

Investigation Committee started preliminary examination of the facts of the removal of children from Russian families in Norway

On the facts of the removal of children from families in Norway, Russian Main Investigation Department of Russian Federation initiated investigation verification. Today, the media became aware of the withdrawal by child protection services in Norway of a six-year girl from a Russian family, only shortly after when from the Russians of Pskov region, living in Norway, was seized five year boy. In each case, children under false pretenses were taken from their parents and placed in foster care.

As part of the preliminary examination it will be established circumstances of gross violations of the rights of Russian children under manifestly illegal acts by transferring them into foster care, and legal assessment of actions of officials, which resulted in a substantial violation of the rights and legitimate interests of Russian citizens. If criminal signs will be found in the actions committed against Russian children, Russian Investigative Committee will start criminal investigation based on the audit .

It should be noted that the penal laws of the Russian Federation gives us the right to prosecute, including foreign nationals, if they committed a crime against the citizens of the Russian Federation, regardless of where it occurs.

Particular attention SK Russia pays investigate crimes against minors and citizens of the Russian Federation intends all possible legal means, and promote the restoration and protection of the rights of children.


http://ria.ru/world/20141111/1032812504.html

The Commissioner for Children’s Rights under the President of the Russian Federation Pavel Astakhov said on Tuesday that the situation with the Russian boy Oscar Shionkom seized from their parents in Norway, has deteriorated dramatically.

The Norwegian authorities have taken Oscar Shionk on October the 8th from the family of Russian citizens who temporarily come to work in the city of Tromso, after he told the school that his mother helped him remove his milk tooth. According to the Ombudsman, in a report written that it is the mother of “tooth was knocked out of the child.” Earlier Astakhov reported that diplomats aware of 19 cases of withdrawal of Russian children from a families in Norway.

“At the moment, child protection services in Norway actually intimidate parents, as one of the channels showed interviews with Oscar’s grandparents who said that the boy is better to return to Russia … On this basis, child protection services have decided to transfer Oscar to another foster family. Introduced measures of secrecy, “- said Astakhov reporters in Minsk on Tuesday.

According to the commissioner, Oscar was allowed to meet with his parents, but it will not be allowed to tell his place of residence. “This is bullying parents so that the do to not talk to reporters,” – said Astakhov. “We hope to be able to prove that the parents did not commit the fact that they are charged with, and that Oscar is returned to parents,” – he added.

“Aggression from Norwegian authorities, who do not look at any laws nor to bilateral agreements, makes you wonder,” – said Astakhov.

He pointed out that the boy was interrogated for five hours in a foreign language by psychologists and “lead to the conclusion that he allegedly did not want to return to his family.” “But seeing him, showed that he seeks his family and wants to return mother, and this is very important. Child’s desire, the desire for parents to prove that there was nothing in what the Norwegian authorities accused the family of Oscar ” – said Astakhov.


A documentary on NTV
“Adoption has become big business: Norway abducts Russian kids.”

New tragedy with Russian children in Norway forced defenders seriously consider contacting the UN to understand why kidnapping permitted by law prospers in this country prospers.

Children are kidnapped in the streets, taken away from schools. And all this is supposed to protect the child from domestic violence. In fact, this is a lucrative business, and to take away a child, only one call to the service care is needed. Reporter from “Anatomy of the day” Valery Alekhine uncovered facts that should really be checked at the international level.


UPDATE

http://www.murmansk.kp.ru/daily/26412/3286247/

Little Oscar was returned to his family (and, conversely, the family was returned to Oscar). It happened around 28th of July this year, after the boy was hidden away in a “foster” family for 10 months.

But, the family decided to stay in Norway and will not be taking their child to Murmansk. The article above angles the case as follows: Barnevern graciously decided to return the child to his parents, despite what the court ruling (not to return) seemed to indicate. I really hope that the decision to stay will not prove to be a tragic one in the future…

What these 10 months of separation has done to the 6-year-old kid, is that he started to forget Russian language. The mother’s sister said that during a Skype meeting the child had difficulty understanding her, and that the parents even had to translate for him at times. It seems that Oscar will be learning Russian anew together with his little sister. The aunt, with whom little girl was living during this time, says that the little girl remembers the day when her brother was taken away, how three women came, and how her mother was crying. The aunt considers taking the girl to Norway so that she’ll reunite with her brother again. (I hope this will not lead to dire consequences for both!)

Child Kidnapping by the Norwegian State:
De-facto Child Slavery

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Norway has a peculiar child protection (barnevernet) system. At a most insignificant suspicion that a child has bee mistreated by its parents, the child will be taken by the sate from its parents and relocated to an undisclosed foster family. *The parents will then be presumed guilty until they prove that they are innocent, a process that can take up to several years. It does not matter if both parents and the child are not Norwegian citizens – they can even be tourists visiting the country for a couple of days, the process would still be the same.

http://rt.com/news/196532-norway-remove-child-tooth/

Two weeks ago a Russia family working in the North of Norway experienced just that. Their 5-year old son had a loose milk tooth, which the mother helped to remove. The child mentioned that at school and the teacher took the child home, suspecting abuse. The parents were getting worried when the child did not return from school in the evening, but became even more worried when they got summoned by the police to give statements. They were denied their request to see the child, and they still do not know where the child is. Child protection also expressed interest in the younger sister of the boy, but the parents managed to send he back to Russia to her grand-parents, while they remain in Norway for the legal battle to get their child back. All three are Russian citizens, so this is not just a case of kidnapping, but of an abduction of a foreign citizen.

Here is a 2011 case, where a Russia single father was imprisoned for his attempts of getting his Russian son back from CPS:

http://english.pravda.ru/society/stories/11-10-2011/119296-norway_children-0/

According to Human Rights Alert Norway, a Norwegian human rights organization, child protection services take children from their parents every day, without investigation or court decisions. As many as ten children are forcefully separated from their parents in the country on a daily basis. In 2011, 50 children, who had been separated from their parents against their own will, committed suicide.

Norway had about 8000 such cases, 20 of which against Russian citizens. India made a TV documentary, called “Nightmare in Norway” – an Indian child got confiscated from its Indian parents in the same manner after the authorities learnt that the child crept into his parents bed after having nightmares (a child, according to the rules, must always sleep in its own bed).

The state-kidnapped children are often placed in care of families of “non-traditional orientation”, which is in accordance with the Norwegian doctrine of de-genderaisation of children. A child should be an “it”, until “it” is old enough to decide if it wants to be a “she” or “he”.

In those cases when parents managed to prove their innocence, and children were returned, the families were still forced to leave Norway.

So, when visiting Norway with a child, make sure not to anger it so that it does not start tell tall tails of abuse to its teachers and don’t feed it from your hands (falls under the transgression of “forced feeding”)

The problem I see with the Norwegian child care system is that parents are presumed guilty until proven innocent with immediate removal of the child, which is traumatic for the kid. In most other countries the families are observed/followed up, and the extraction of the child requires a court order.

Here is one of the “Indian” cases


And how the hell did they get that information in the first place?

That’s quiet easy. Children, especially in lower grades and in kindergarten often tell (exaggerated) tales to their peers and teachers. So teachers are very well informed about the most intimate aspects of a family’s life, which may surprise even the parents. My friends with children had some rather amusing stories. The trick is to sift exaggerations from real threat signals.

The problem with the case of this Russian kid is that under the international law, what happened to him can be classified as an abduction of a foreign national. Plus this is an infliction of a gross psychological trauma on the child. In a normal world the child should have been transferred to the Russian child care authorities, which should decide what to do in accordance with the Russian law.

If I were ever separated from my parents in such a manner and learnt about it as an adult, I would have sued the bastards kidnapping me for million amounts for each day lost of my life with my parents. The reverse applies, and a lioness protecting her cubs would have seemed like a tame purring cat compared to my mother should something happen to her children. I remember as a 12-year-old I went for a month to pioneer camp. That was tough, being separated from the family, even though parents visited a couple of times. Here, a 5-year-old is a total isolation in a foreign country.

I can hazard a guess at what this 5-year-old has been through for the last 3 weeks of separation from the parents. He could feel anger and confusion at being, what he’d think, abandoned by his parents, who don’t come to rescue him. Coupled with interrogations (sorry, “interviews”) and possibly suggestive questions, the child may start wishing for the parents to feel the same hurt he is feeling and tell accusative stories, thus unwittingly sealing his own fate of being forever torn apart from the family. Alternatively the boy might start thinking that there’s something wrong with him if his parents abandoned him, which will lead to insecurity, inferiority complex and potential future suicidal thought. In either case, this three-week separation has already done its damage.

The hearing deciding the fate of the abducted kid was today…


What irks me is that if the parents are suspected of violence, then they should be arrested and charged, while the child is returned to the family – he has a sister, whom the parents saved from the system, grandfathers and grandmothers. Instead the child is arrested and incarcerated.

News update in Russian:
http://www.rapsinews.ru/international_news/20141021/272418190.html

This is one of the 20 cases against Russian kids over the last 2.5 years.


When a child is taken from a family, I equate it to the capital punishment. In case of a mistake, a “judicial murder” with irreversible consequences takes place – a family is sentenced for life without child and the child is sentenced for life without parents.

To address the Indian question: that might by the only case, I don’t know, but statistically I doubt it. In a TV interview, the Russian consulate in Norway cited that they know of about 8000 cases of child “extraction” over the last 2.5 years. The majority was said to go against families where one or both parents are foreign nationals. Only 20 case touched Russians. Given that the Indian population in Norway is magnitude large than Russian, I would say that that was not the only case touching an Indian family.

A bit of cultural background on milk teeth removal. Smiley It’s largely mother’s responsibility in Russian families. The procedure involves a string, tied to a tooth and a sharp pull or a door. The child gets as a prize to carry his own tooth on a string, showing it off and boasting how brave and grown-up he is. I can see if a child told something similar to his teacher, he’d be misunderstood…

Some background on family values. In Norway, after the oil was found in the 70s and the wealth went up, the definition of family went at the same time down. In Russia, a family includes great-grand-parents, grand-parents, parents, children, often living together. In Norway, it’s the core family (kjernefamilie) of two parents plus a child of up to 18. It is almost expected of a child in his late teens to move out and find some basement apartment to rent, taking up a loan (the banks love this convention). It’s met with scorn if you “live with your parents”, as people here stopped realising that at some point you stop living “with your parents” and “parents start living with you”, while you take care of them. I tell this because Russian families coming to say, Norway, with their children, do so for their children’s sake, to give them better position in life, as it is also an investment into the parent’s old age, when it will be the time for the children to care for their parents, they’ll be better equipped to do so. The egoistic parents leave their children behind in Russia and come alone.


And the latest news!
http://news.rambler.ru/27516598/
CPS decided to keep the child in the foster family, saying it will be best for the child, and the parents will be “allowed to see him form time to time”. Undecided
The parents will go to court (of course), but as the 2011 case shows, they might get imprisoned for wanting their child back.

The mother did her maternal duty and for that the child is stolen from her. I have no words…


Another case from 20011:

A Norwegian court has recently ruled that the daughter of Russian national Svetlana Tarannikova must undergo the adaptation process in Norway. Before that, child protection services took Svetlana’s two sons away from her. The boys were delivered to the foster family of two women with untraditional sexual orientation.

And another case from 2011, when a boy managed to escape from Norway:
http://english.pravda.ru/society/stories/05-10-2011/119234-russian_boy_schengen-0/

The Polish court allowed a Russian boy who escaped from Norway to return home, but it is not that easy to do. The Norwegian authorities have placed him on a wanted list and have entered his data into the Schengen passport control area. The Norwegian side has not provided the Polish court with the documents used as a basis for the return of the Russian citizen to Norway.

For several months Pravda.Ru has been following the dramatic story of the Russian citizen Irina Bergseth whose two children were taken away by the Norwegian social services. Twists and turns in this story remind an entangled movie plot: as soon as it seems that the happy ending is near, something unexpected happens. But, unfortunately, it all happens in real life.


I was trying to wrap my head around what was happening and one word kept popping up in my mind:

Slavery.

Slavery can take many form. Labour slavery, sex slavery, this is child slavery. They all satisfy some needs that cannot be satisfied domestically: more workforce, more women, more children. These abducted kids (about 10 each day as per statistics) are grown detached from their origins, taught to be good Norwegians.

This happened before in history:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janissaries

From the 1380s to 1648, the Janissaries were gathered through the dev┼čirme system which was abolished in 1638. This was the taking (enslaving) of non-Muslim boys, notably Anatolian and Balkan Christians;

Note that also in the Norwegian cases, mos children are under 6 years old, in an age, when they can be easily “re-programmed”.

This kid still has his younger sister, who is free. Hopefully she’ll come looking for him in 15-16 years’ time, once she is of age…