Re: A community without politics!!!!


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Posted by Count Torby on February 24, 1997 at 10:24:16:

In Reply to: Re: A community without politics!!!! posted by Henning Hansen on February 23, 1997 at 02:26:31:

: Actually you have mistaken me for something which i am not, A democrat.
: I do not belive in Majority rule, I belive in a system of goverment where individual rights are the FUNDAMENTAL reason for goverment.
: This means that goverment is instituted among men in order to protect these rights ( for a explaination of rights got to LLs homepages).
: Your right to live your life as you see fit stops when your actions violates somebody elses rights.
: A system of goverment does not limit anyone from living their life without anyone interfering, but secures everybodys right to do so and preventing people from violating these rights

: Tyrrany is a system from which one must protect one self from, sometimes tyrrany comes from within or lies concealed , and then those who discover this must cry a warning to all in order to rally a defence.
: I have seen tyrrany ,it lies in practically every programme in Ladonia , altough not explicit but implicit, and my candidacy is the cry for a defence against tyrants.

: I am not begging for votes, if i could make Ladonia a country of freedom and individual rights by withrawing from the election , I would.
: But that is not going to happen is it??
: Altough i would much rather listen to politicans begging for votes every four years than looking at a system where the leaders are appointed by inheridance rather than consulting the citizens for a mandate.
: For it is the citizens that have given the state its powers and they can take these powers back if the state becomes a tyrrany.

: I am not a god.
: Those who wishes to regulate citizens must belive that they are gods.

: I know that i have no wish to govern without the citizens consent.
: That does not make me a democrat, because i belive that the majority is not allowed to violate other citizens rights.

: Do i wish Ladonia to become an example: OF course!!!
: Ladonia must be once we have established freedom a supporter of freedom in the world
: Only when a new world rises from the old can we feel confident that our freedom is secure.

: the whole system of monarchy is based on the system of a ruler and his/her servants ,no one has ever managed to make monarchy a system of freedom because it is impossible.
: A system where one person reigns supreme is not freedom.
: A system that protect individual rights is.

: Freedom is not to do anything you feel like.
: Freedom is when your rights are respected and if nescesary upheld so that men can coexist withone another respecting each others rights.

: The LL want a society where everyones rights to LIFE; LIBERTY ; AND PROPERTY is guaranteed for all men.
: Not a system based on heriditary rule where any ruler can rule over man as he see fit.

: Therefore a system of monarchy is not under any circumstance a system of freedom.
Oskarshamn 24/2-97
Now, I see that worthy Hennning Hansen speaks of anarchy, for thatīs what total freedom is if a society chooses it. Have it ever occurred to you, Henning, that there is a reason for everything. Even for a system where somebody rules over another. How bad a government can be we all know, but there is as I said a reason for it. Without any ruling at all we tend to become savages, each looking for his or her own benefits. So, practically, even you Henning Hansen, speaks for a kind of ruling system. You say that when a person violates the right of others, he is forfeit as a citizen. But who is going to determine what exactly is the right thing to do. Who is going to tell me that i violate the right of others when any kind of act in my own point of wiew is right. If i like to piss on a particular tree i may violate the right of someone who donīt like anybody to piss on just that tree. But in that case my right to piss on the tree is violated. So who is right. No, I firmly believe that even in our beloved Ladonia we need som standard of ethics and somebody to rule over us. Peronally I prefer both king and queen since I am a sort of romantic. In Jean Pierre Barda we have both. More votes for him!
Anyway, as a conclusion, I would like to point out that the only total freedom we can experience is when we see and understand that it is inside ourselves we can find it. Freedom is an inner thing, a thing of soul and spirit, not of things outside. Thus, a person who knows that, can be truly free even in prison.
Greetings from count Torby.




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