Posted by Johan Andersson, Custodian on March 11, 1997 at 18:40:40:
In Reply to: Re: Reply to Clarification of pork business - Ladonian finances continued posted by Gunnar Jarl, HDKPPTQ on March 11, 1997 at 10:13:11:
: : Gunnar Jarl, consort of Queen Ywonne.
: : Greetings!
: : I see that you have thought a bit about economics in Ladonia.
: : But the point here is not to apply the economic system of other countries
: : to our ladonian reality. My dislike of the worthy queens "porky"
: : business is of pure aesthetic kind. I do not like the system of
: : the western world where everything today is built on money and how to get them.
: : Now I am very well aware of the philosophy behind Gunnar Jarls arguments,
: : I assume they are built on the thougts of Rudolf Steiner and mme Blavatsky,
: : shortly said the antroposophic thougts. How well they may fit in
: : on the daily life on the estate of Bjorksater, the do not fit in on the
: : ladonian system.
: : The point here is, in Ladonia as I see it, we do not use money at all. What we
: : do is to share thougths and creativity with each other. An "economic" system with
: : much higher values than the pure monetary one.
: : But alas, we are all prisoners of the moneymongers without heart and soul. We all
: : have to toil for our daily bread in the world and country in wich we live. So I
: : can not condemn our queens business with pigs. Especially not since it is
: : ecological and kind to natures rules. But in Ladonia, let us hold on to the
: : principle of sharing our creativity and not even think of being paid money for this.
: : As ladonians, we have a golden opportunity to raise ourselves over the level of
: : materialistic thinking.
: : Pinguis et nitidus Epicuri de grege porcus
: : Count Torby
: Thank you Count Torby, Lord of Roses!
: I love having a discussion of Ladonian Finances going
: on. I am not an anthroposophist. I do like some of
: the thoughts of Steiner (though I haven't read much)
: and dislike some. Maybe MY OWN thoughts fits in to the
: thinking of the guys you refer to and I don't say that
: I am uninfluenced by our common human history. But
: let's not accuse one another for having adopted someone
: elses thoughts.
: We have to face it though. We do have a system of money
: in Ladonia. Our currency is Oertug and it has an exchange
: rate of SEK 10. I don't know if any money has been produced
: as yet and what the purpose of the currency is. I think
: that's what I want to have a creative discussion about
: here on the board. Come on all you economist experts,
: get out of the lurking mode and start paying taxes.
: Gunnar Jarl
: Non scholae sed vitae discimus
Minister Gunnar Jarl - Salve!
Ladonian currency is indeed Örtug (Oertug). I can agree with you
that it is about time we have a disussion about our Örtug and I will
put forward a hypothesis on its genesis and function.
First of all there is a link between Nimis and Örtug. Nimis means
"too much" and Örtug is a currency. The moral implications of "too much"
could be interpreted as a shout into the open sky; a shout for peace; a
shout for a freeing from the dependance of the Mammonian world; a crying
out for reconciliation.
Thus Örtug has a symbolical function, as a remainder for us ladonians of
our origin. Örtug also has a practical function, in my view.
Every country on the earth has its own stamps. When ladonia was created
it was evident that stamps had to be made. Thus Ladonia existed and there
were stamps, but the latter couldn't be bought because we didn't have a
currency. Thats when Örtug had to be created. Örtug is thus the mean for which
we can buy our stamps.
The symbolical and practical sides of our Örtug is now revealed, but I am sure
there are other interpretations of Örtug, amongst our citizens.
Johan Andersson, Custodian
Levis Vir